Dr.A.K.Srivastava's letter (25th Jan): MCI/Govt. determined to sideline FM in UG medical education?


Dear Dr Adarsh,                                                              25th jan 2011
You might aware about the meeting of Experts for Post- Graduate curriculum in Forensic Medicine in MCI on 21st Jan 2011.  Dr C B Tripathi, Dr P C Dixit & Dr J S Dalal were present in the meeting. In the meeting Representatives of MCI tried to convince them that -
·         Government is determined to reduce time-span of MBBS into four years so they have to reshuffle the curriculum accordingly.
·         Use of Forensic Medicine in Medical Care is least so it is not required as subject in Medical Curriculum at undergraduate level. If it is required it should be at Post Graduate level.
·         For Medicolegal & Post Mortem MCI is not concerned. They categorically remarked that these are required for the department of Home and Law & Justice so they should think & manage.
That’s why they have put Forensic Medicine in Group C & also as elective subject in the proposed Vision 2015. BOG has also convinced the Minister too. The move to reduce Faculty in Forensic Medicine can also be interpreted with BOG’s hidden agenda to remove FMT as a regular subject. Dr Sarine also knew this move on 21. 12 2010 during meeting with Forensic delegation but did not disclose & diplomatically convinced us to restore faculty within few months while in the  4-years MBBS course probably they will not required faculty of Forensic Medicine and if required may be one.
I personally feel MCI and Ministry of Health is not going to hear us. We have to present the consequences of removing the subject to the Ministry of Home Affairs and Law & Justice. You have rightly written in your blog that medicolegal & post mortem examination is an essential part of crime investigation, without which conviction rate and Justice to common people will be highly affected.
We have to plan PIL in Supreme Court by a NGO, not for the restoration of Forensic Medicine in medical curriculum but for the Justice to common people which is going to be affected badly if proper medicolegal training is not given to medical graduates.
Conference is ahead. It is the best time to raise this issue in General Body and get solution from them. Due to some personal involvement I am not going in the conference but I am always available for the subject physically as well as financially.
Thanking you & best wishes
Dr A K Srivastava
Professor & head
Subharti Medical College Meerut
      Cell phone 0-9456662818              

3 comments:

  1. Dr Mahabalesh ShettyJanuary 25, 2011

    It is high time we all must chip in money & file single PIL IN SUPREME COURT. Immediately after the national conference. We should file it in Supreme Court only and not in high courts.Once it is filed in various high courts mater will be subjudice.Please request Our members not to file in high courts.. we may have to higher India’s best lawyers .2000 Forensic Faculty x 5000 –(One crore Rupees ).We have to fight the mighty health minister of Government of India.
    Mahabalesh

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  2. if they remove fm in ug who will join in pg.....all these things are drama created by the cmc people...

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  3. Dr Satyakam JenaFebruary 10, 2011

    Its not going to happen in the way its being projected.Forensic medicine will be taught as usual in the FM classes & certain practical aspects as Injury examination etc will also simultaneously be taught in Surgery wards etc so that both the clinical & medico-legal aspects can be integrated at the same time.

    There will be Post Graduate Courses as usual anyway & the faculty requirements will stay as usual.Please not that in the vision document itself MCI notes the short fall in FM faculty by 2020 as something around 3000 probably.The recent dilution of requirement is just a response to the acute non availability of faculties only.

    Integrated teaching is a positive move.But subject integration can be done in many different ways & not necessarily in the way MCI proposes it-least of all,claiming it to be the best.It cant push through any proposal like a bully,and its amazing some 4-5 guys have arrogated to themselves the right over medical education wisdom!
    There can be counter & better ideas,but LET MCI FIRST SPELL OUT ITS UG EDUCATION CURRICULUM IN DETAIL.LETS SEE FIRST IF THEIR INTEGRATED EDUCATION PROGRAMME TAKES 4 YEARS OR 6 & HALF YEARS TO COMPLETE.AND WHAT ABOUT THE RESULTS?LET THE PROGRAMME FIRST RUN AS TRIAL & FEED BACK & PERFORMANCE EVALUATION OF STUDENTS BE TAKEN FOR FIRST FEW YEARS & BE COMPARED WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM.if the results are good only then can they be put open for national debate.Not the way MCI does now.Docs are poor at policy planning.and MCI is no exception!

    By the way,there can be no policy change that can deprieve any one of his/her own sustainance & livelihood-something guaranteed under right to life.So lets not bother about any Sarin etc or some board.

    If subjects can be integrated-then we dont require even medicine or o&g or Psm etc etc
    Docs are specialists in medicine.but curriculum designing isnt their area.

    U can prepare for PIL etc etc,but first lets prepare a draft of UG medical education that can be a better curriculum than the one provided by MCI-both having integration & having all the subjects as they were.it'd come extremely handy in the case if at all thats required.

    Am absolutely in favour of a re-structuring of curriculum,but not the way MCI is trying to do it.

    Dr Satyakam Jena,MD(FM)

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