IAFM: Memorandum on vision-2015



Indian Academy of Forensic Medicine
Governing Council (2010 – 2012)
Registration No. 349, Panaji, Goa

Dr. D S Badkur                   Dr. Adarsh Kumar                           Dr. A S Thind
President                         General Secretary                           Treasurer




No. IAFM/AK/30                                                 Dated: 15th Jan. 2011
feedback@mciindia.org; ug@mciindia.org;


The Board of Governors
Medical Council of India
Pocket 14, Sector 8, Dwaraka, Phase 1,
NEW DELHI – 110077


Sub: Comments & Suggestions on VISION -2015
Ref: VISION -2015 Document having proposed UG Medical Education placed on MCI website on/after 28 Dec.2010 with inviting suggestions /comments before 17 Jan.2011 available at
http://www.mciindia.org/circulars/Notice-vision-2015.pdf
http://www.mciindia.org/mediaroom/announcements.aspx
http://www.mciindia.org/tools/announcement/UG-medical-education.pdf


Sir,
The Indian Academy of Forensic Medicine (IAFM) is the national body in the area of Forensic Medicine was founded in 1972 with an aim to encourage the study, improve the practice, elevate the standard and promote the progress of forensic medicine (including toxicology) as well as to advice the central government and other government organizations on matters pertaining to forensic medicine etc. Prima facie the recommendations as proposed in the said document appear to be affecting the subject of forensic medicine the most. Therefore, IAFM after having detailed discussions with the associated state bodies and organizations as well as taking individual inputs from forensic fraternity representing different parts of country, is submitting its detailed representation, views and suggestions for your kind consideration.
IAFM further requests you to give us an opportunity by inclusion in finalization of the document to really make it the meaningful exercise. It is further placed on record that all the annexure (4 in numbers) as mentioned in the said document have not been provided or displayed over MCI website despite several requests therefore this may be treated as our preliminary response.


Development and change is essential part of life and therefore, IAFM welcomes the proposed UG medical education Vision-2015 document placed on MCI website on/after 28 Dec.2010 indicative of major reforms and suggestive of a comprehensive change in basic medical education course (MBBS). Further, the academy humbly submits its representation since these appear retrogressive with regard to quality of medical education in general and Forensic Medicine in particular. IAFM agrees with some of the finest
proposal like Medical Teachers Capacity Building in Education and restructuring of curriculum as per the present need. However, IAFM wishes to place following points of concern as few recommendations may undermine all the efforts taken by IAFM in ameliorating the dismal scenario of medico-legal investigations by strengthening the subject of Forensic Medicine. 
The salient points incorporating our inputs are grouped into- 
    A) The general comments and 
    B) Specific comments pertaining to forensic medicine & toxicology.


A.VISION-2015 and flaws therein


  • Vision-2015 appears to be myopic and tunneled considering the Indian scenario, which is rather different from other developed countries. It seems that the aim of proposal is only in increasing the quantity of doctors in this country ignoring the fact that insufficient teaching will produce inefficient doctors which will do more harm than good to the society. Since almost 3/4th population of the country belongs to rural areas, the time-honored concept of the BASIC DOCTOR with 4½+1 years training is more relevant rather than the ‘metrooriented’ VISION-2015. It has become all the more important especially after introduction of Rural MBBS (BRMS) course as promulgated by Government of India (the curriculum of which has still not been defined but tenure is 3½ years). In this context it surely needs an in-depth analysis and a comprehensive re-look. The proposal of reducing the duration of the medical education from the existing 4½+1 years to 4+1 years, will lead to an awful corrosion in the quality of medical education, which in turn will not only tarnish the image of country towards propagating the global industry of medical / health tourism but also moving away from global standards. Implementation of the said proposal may send a wrong message to the world that Indian doctors are produced in a short span of time, with inadequate practical and theoretical background. IAFM advocates that duration of MBBS should be increased to 5 years-instead of 4½ ;with 2½ years of clinical training-instead of 2; or 1½ years of Internship instead of 1(matter of further deliberation) at par with the global norms.
  • For such a major curricular revamp by the MCI, the feedback should have been collected in a transparent manner by the Board; comprising of Academicians, National as well as State bodies of individual subjects, Educational institutes and other stakeholders. This proposal should have been widely circulated to the medical institutions all across the country.
  • The working group comprising of 8 members under convenorship of Dr George Mathew does not provide the consultations sought from various branches of medical sciences, the impending consequence may be disastrous to medical education as envisioned.
  • Specifically Annexure-2 as mentioned at page 15 under heading ‘Need to review curriculum’ has not been made accessible despite repeated requests, the deadline for feedback needs be extended for a minimum time of 2 months or so.
  • Grouping the medical subjects as A, B & C, Core & Non-core implies that “C, Non-core & Elective subjects” are LESS IMPORTANT/NOT NEEDED in UG curriculum. This would be like trying to tell that some parts of the human body may be sacrificed as they do not have a specified and designated function. A human body cannot be called as 'complete' if some of its parts are 'missing'.
  • From a consumer (patient) point of view, an imperfect, ill-equipped, unprofessional and untrained ‘Basic doctor’ may just fulfill the required doctor-population ratio as projected. Nevertheless such doctors, who deal with life of the patients, are likely to err frequently with compromised quality of medical education, if imparted. It qualifies for violation of the Article 21 of the constitution, which in all likelihood will lead to rampant rise in medical negligence cases.


B. Forensic Medicine in UG Medical Curriculum


  • The projected need and shortage of teachers as mentioned under Table-3 (page11) pertaining to Forensic Medicine appears to be misleading. The data look like being cooked-up entirely. It is evident with the current need as per the MCI guidelines itself; the same can’t be equal for departments like Surgery, Pathology as well as Forensic Medicine since already the requirement for FM teachers were least in comparison to other branches (eg. For 100 students, only 3 forensic medicine faculties are required as against 5/6 for surgery). The table shows current need for all these departments as 2000 each which is erroneous. Further the table shows the current shortfall as 1500; again it has been goofed-up completely. As per the information available at MCI website (although the same has just been withdrawn & replaced within this week itself); there are total 1493 forensic medicine teachers (1390+103) i.e. approx 1500 whereas the table 3 shows only 500 teachers in place. Upon further scrutiny it was also observed that names of so many faculty members are not appearing in this list whereas they are very much working in various medical colleges. According to rough estimate at least names of about 100 forensic medicine faculty are not reflected on websiteThat means there are more than 1600 forensic faculty working in place as per conservative estimates. If one takes into account the current need; there does not appear any shortfall as projected which might have been the basis for making such proposals pertaining to fragmentation of the subject of Forensic Medicine & Toxicology.




  • Similarly the projected need (2000) also can’t be same for all the subjects i.e. Surgery, Medicine, Pathology as well as Forensic medicine as per present requirements of medical teachers. There are almost 100 seats of PG in forensic medicine all over country so we can expect that 100 prospective faculty will be added every year to present pool. Relaxation in criteria for PG seats recently; will further increase the number of seats.In view of the enhancement of age of retirement of medical teachers from 65 to 70 years; in present circumstances the additional need as projected (3500) appears to be grossly inflated.
  • The UG working group must go through Mudaliar and Bohr committee reports, which were constituted by Government of India to improve medicolegal work in India as well as recommendations of Central Medicolegal Advisory Committee formed under chairmanship of Director General Health Services in 1983. In 2007, a committee chaired by Former Chief Justice of India Mr. Justice Venkatachalaiah prepared a draft on “revision of undergraduate medico-legal curriculum” for submission to United Nations Development Country Office which also need be taken into consideration before coming onto such conclusions.
  • Scientific evidence produced by a doctor, helps in increasing the conviction rate. Majority of crime cases (about 80-90%) are handled by the basic doctors (MBBS).The Forensic expertise matters in conviction as is evidenced by the fact that there is ten times the conviction rate in cases investigated by agencies that use it, in contrast to those undertaken by routine police investigation. By ignoring the importance of forensic medicine in UG curriculum, the conviction rate of the prospective crimes will be lower than ever before. The Indian legal system will be traumatically affected by the vision-2015 and hence the inputs should also be taken from the Hon’ble Judiciary, Home Ministry, Central & State Governments as well as the general public.
  • Proposal suggests that 'Forensic Medicine can be effectively taught during Gynecology & Obstetrics (rape, assault), Surgery (injuries), and Pharmacology (toxicology)'. Nothing can be considered as 'equivalent' to a teaching by a “Subject specialist”. This transpires that, a Gynae or a Surgery teacher may not be able to pick up the nuances of a rape case or an injury case in comparison to a doctor trained in MD Forensic Medicine. By doing so, the “ergonomics” is defeated. Similarly, toxicology can not be taught by a pharmacologist who is well versed with medicines but not DRUGS and POISONS. The expert committee should have realized that the clinicians should be exclusively spared for clinical work and be let free from medicolegal hassles, thereby not spending lot of time in attending courts which is inevitable with medico-legal duties. We suggest that toxicology cases being essentially medico-legal in nature must remain with Forensic Medicine and not be attached in a piecemeal manner to various departments. The need of hour is rather to create a separate specialty of Medical Toxicology under FMT with the assumption that the subject of Forensic Medicine and Toxicology is clinical and not para-clinical as thought earlier.


IAFM agrees with the broad suggestion as per this document that the subject of Forensic Medicine &Toxicology should not be grouped under pre or para-clinical disciplines but under
clinical discipline because of acquiring inter-disciplinary knowledge. After the students are equipped with Pre & Para-clinical knowledge & involve themselves in clinical subjects like Surgery, Casualty (Emergency Medicine including poisoning cases), Obst & Gynae, Ortho, ENT, Ophth., Anesthesiology etc; the teaching of FMT will be more effective because the very definition of forensic
medicine (as accepted by law) is “Application of knowledge and principles of all branches of medicine in the court room for administration of justice”.Therefore Forensic Medicine should be taught from 3rd to 9th semester and the examination should be conducted at the end of 9th semester.


  • Proposal suggests that 'Legal experts can be called for medico-legal issues'. The legal experts are non-medical persons and they can effectively and efficiently represent cases in the courts only with able guidance of Forensic Expert’s medico-legal reports for effective pleading. The Judges and lawyers in the court of Law depend on the expert opinion of a forensic expert in giving judgment in criminal cases. Even the best criminal counsel is ignorant of medicine and intricacies of medicolegal cases and thus cannot be considered to train the UG students. It is pertinent to mention that in the eyes of law even an MBBS doctor is considered as an expert having proper knowledge of Forensic Medicine. The suggestion “outsourcing to a lawyer for teaching forensic medicine to the medical students appears not only totally unjustified and ridiculous but also gives rise to conflict of interest during court proceedings(different professions).
  • Proposal suggests that 'Forensic medicine skills can be acquired during internship such as documentation of medico-legal cases of alcoholism, suicide/homicide, rape, assault and injury cases'. It means that ‘Forensic skills’ is an optional and not a mandatory for a basic doctor. Though ‘Forensic Medicine’ posting is an optional posting in the current medical curriculum, rarely one opts this posting during their internship. Majority of the medicolegal works (including postmortems) in India are being performed by these MBBS doctors. This is one of the bitter truths known to every one yet all of us are helpless due to shortage of forensic faculty at Government institutes and non-permission as well as reluctance for taking medicolegal works by private medical colleges in many states. If this continues, a basic doctor without proper forensic training is going to handle medicolegal cases that may lead to disaster to the society (as recently seen in “Aarushi Talwar” and “Nirupama Pathak cases). It must be kept in mind that MBBS doctor whether passed out from Govt. or private medical college is immaterial since the medico-legal knowledge is obligatory which goes hand-in-hand with routine duties of a doctor.IAFM proposes a compulsory rotatory training of one month during internship under FMT.
  • Forensic Medicine is not a theoretical subject as has been thought. In contrast it is very much practical oriented. Unless a student has practical knowledge of FMT; he/she cannot meet the expectations of the investigating agencies & judiciary who invariably depend upon the medical opinion to deliver the justice in relation to offence committed against human body. Therefore it should be treated as a core subject with mandatory exposure of the MBBS students to practical medico-legal problems like Postmortem examination – Forensic Pathology, Examination of Injury cases including examination of weapon of offence – Forensic Traumatology, Examination of Sexual Assault (RAPE-examination of victim as well as accused) cases – Sexual Jurisprudence, Estimation of Age, Disputed Paternity cases- Clinical Forensic Medicine, Handling of Suspected Poisoning cases including alcohol intoxication-Management, Documentation, Preservation & analysis of poisons – Forensic & Analytical Toxicology.


Therefore in the interest of the MBBS students (would be doctors) & for the larger interest of the society before giving permission/ approval for opening of new medical colleges; the
MCI should insist upon the prospective institutions for a functional unit in this regard like functional mortuary to conduct medico-legal autopsy (after getting the due notification from concerned state),functional Casualty under clinical forensic medicine, separate toxicology unit & required laboratory facilities to start or continue medical education, just like requiring no. of beds/ units/ dept. in the clinical disciplines.


To conclude IAFM agrees that the present curriculum needs be restructured for its adequacy, effectiveness commensurating with incorporation of recent advances as mentioned before according to need of country; not to forget of the fact that what is expected from MBBS doctor by the society at large (the primary duty of health with associated medico-legal duties).


Further, we humbly request to accord the personal hearing for IAFM delegation regarding any clarification as suggested before for substantiating our genuine concerns in this context. The inclusion of Forensic Medicine faculty in formulating and finalizing the proposal is essentially required in the fairness of things.


Therefore the vision document in its present form and content is not acceptable since it has utterly failed in visualizing the far-reaching consequences of its own recommendations. As per the earlier submission this may also be treated as our preliminary response and our right to file additional views upon making available all the annexure still continues.


With sincere regards


Sd/-
(Dr.Adarsh Kumar)
General Secretary, IAFM


Copy to:
1. Hon’ble Health Minister, Govt. of India for his kind information
2. Secretary, Ministry of Health, Govt. of India
3. Secretary, Ministry of Home Affairs, Govt. of India
4. Secretary, Ministry of Law & Justice, Govt. of India






Address for Correspondence (General Secretary)
# 315, New Forensic Wing , Opp. Mortuary, above Laundry Building, All India Institute of Medical Sciences, New Delhi – 110029. Mob. 098684-38856, 0986839-7146 , 011-26546467, Fax. 011-26106826, Email: dradarshk@yahoo.com

10 comments:

  1. Thank You Dr.Adarsh for fulfilling the responsibility bestowed on you. The members of IAFM are fortunate that you have been elected as Gen secretary at what seems to be the worst years (2010-2011) from FM point of view. Keep up the good work...rest not until we have been successful.

    ReplyDelete
  2. Dr Adarsh KumarJanuary 16, 2011

    Many thanks for words of encouragement. in fact these are the things which keeps one going.I believe in action and therfore nor taking nor will take rest in this matter since we have miles to go............miles to go. With good wishes from all of you We will be suceesful in our mission. Please continue to provide the valuable feedbacks

    ReplyDelete
  3. we at Indian Association of Medico-Legal Experts ( REGD)are in full agreement with IAFM initiative to restore prestige of Forensic Medicine. We endorse IAFM views fully and would join any battle including legal and political with our resources and manpower.
    Dr R K Sharma
    President, Indian Association of Medico-legal Experts
    Former secretary, Indian Academy of Forensic Medicine (1998-2000)

    ReplyDelete
  4. The status and importancce of forensic medicine is less to none other medical subjects taught in our ug and pg teaching curriculum.It should be treated as core medcal subject.We should not blindly follow the western ug medical curriculum blindly.The situation medicolegal system is quite different in our country.No one has right to play with the future of this subjects as it incorporates application of knowledge of all medical subjects.

    ReplyDelete
  5. Thank you "IAFM - TEAM".... long live Forensic Family... Long live "IAFM".
    Great efforts taken by you sir...

    ReplyDelete
  6. my regards to my esteemed colleagues and office bearers in responding to this issue

    ReplyDelete
  7. yes!!!! v have miles to go sir,... because these type of bird eye vision always a headache for us.. v have to fight until it shoulb be erased completely... sir... even any bird should not dare to see our department once again in future....
    dr. Uday bhaskar reddy M.D

    ReplyDelete
  8. thank you IAFM. we,young pg students think vision 2015 is of less interest of state and society ,& proposed in the greater interest of persons.we are with u sir.please fight it out.we will fight it out Adarsh sir. thank you

    ReplyDelete
  9. Feed Back to the BOD/MCI
    Sir

    With due regard it is very sorry state of affairs which is going on these day in the name of revolution of medical industry and vision 2015 and other. The BOG/ MCI/ Ministry/ Association of Private medical Colleges all together in very haste in implementing various mala-fied intentions with incomplete, difficult unclear projections for just for forcibly implementation in their own personal and master’s interests. Medical education of India and its curriculum is one of the best in the world. That’s why the highest demand for Indian medical professional in the European countries. The prime concern of any education including the medical education to either the benefit citizen of entire nation or to create National asset and wealth by way of skilled human resource and ultimately nation will be benefited. The spurious vision which presented in haste is clearly showing non application of mind, and something is going on the malafied direction from the source having evil motives.
    With this kind of proposal private medical institution are defiantly going to be benefited a lot and the Government medical institutions will be worstly affected. One of member of Private medical association have express his view that those bad days to have any fear of control of MCI had gone we already bought the Ministry with thousands of crore Rupees. The MCI/ BOG will do as we wish, there will no surprise Inspection and any kind of check in making of our profit. If their will any, we windup and enter in to some another business after making due profit.
    My sincere request as well as advice that knowingly and unknowingly not be the silent or active conspirators against larger interest of the society and regard in the supremacy of constitution not in the crore of money. Being the adhoc body your first and foremost duty is to reconstruct the Medical Council and its Democratic Structure as per the IMC Act. 1956. Have faith in supremacy of constitution. Restore the Importance of Most Important subject Forensic Medicine. Its is life saving medicine for the truth, the honesty, the democracy, the poor citizen, the constitution, the safety of medical professional, our political masters, and our families, including you. So if this subject ends with the medical profession it became end of all.
    May God Give the Strength to hear Your Soul, and enlighten you with Cry of Innocent victims of Injustice and Crime.

    Dr. A. K. Singh

    ReplyDelete
  10. Dr Adarsh Kumar gen Sec IAFMFebruary 11, 2011

    dear dr Abhas
    Thanks for your valuable comments. Please continue

    ReplyDelete