YAFMT update: We met 2 ministers. (modified on 4th Feb)


YAFMT met Karnataka State Law minister and Home minister and submitted the memorandum today (3rd Feb 2011) morning. Ministers heard them and they have assured them that they will look into the matter. They gave some suggestion as well. The best outcome was that the law minister of Karnataka has told that he will take the matter to the central ministers.

On Saturday (5th Feb 2011), the press conference is scheduled at 12 noon at Bangalore Press Club.















Dr.Satish and his teammates with Mr.Suresh Kumar (Law minister of Karnataka)



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Regarding membership fees of Rs 500/-, we will soon send the account no. after which u can deposit online.


YOUTH ASSOCIATION OF FORENSIC MEDICINE AND TOXICOLOGY(YAFMT)
Office- No. 178, 8th Cross, 1st Main, MSR Nagar, New BEL Road,Bangalore- 560054

Email- forensicyouth@gmail.com

President 
Dr. N. T. Satish

Vice Presidents 
Dr. Deepak Herald D’Souza
Dr. Theja
swi. H. T


Working President 
Dr. (Major) Jayanth. S. H
    Cell No. - 9845750080

Secretaries
Dr. Anitha. S (Karnataka)
    Cell No. - 9008417293

Dr. Karthik (Delhi)

Dr. Ankush. B. Patil (Goa)

Joint Secretaries 
Dr. Fremingston Marak
(Puducherry)

Dr. Lalit Kumar (Uttaranchal)

Dr. Basappa. S. Hugar

Treasurers 
Dr. Dayananda. R (Karnataka)

Dr. Yadukul (Karnataka)

Executive Committee 

Dr. Pradeep. K. Saralaya
(Karnataka)

Dr. Udaya Shankar. B. S
(Karnataka)

Dr. Sanjay Sukumar
(Puducherry)

Dr. Raghavendra (Karnataka)

Dr. Levis (Kerala)

Dr. Vijay Jadhav (Maharashtra)

Advisory Committee 

Dr. P. K. Devdass

Dr. V. V. Pillay

Dr. Adarsh Kumar

Dr. (Col) Mrinal Jha

Dr. M. C. Gupta

Dr. Balaraj. B. M

Dr. S. Harish

Dr. Girish Chandra.Y.P

Dr. Mahabalesh Shetty

Dr. Millo Tabin



MCI- VISION 2015- Forensic Medicine

The main function of the Medical Council of India is establishing uniform standards of higher qualifications in medicine and recognition of medical qualifications in India and abroad. Board of Governors, Medical Council of India has developed a “Vision-2015” document to reform the medical education in the country.    The main  components  of  the  Vision-2015  documents  are  reforms  in  Under  Graduate  and  Post  Graduate  Medical Education. This vision document is placed  on  the  website  of  the  Council  using  the  URL http://www.mciindia.org/MediaRoom/Announcements.aspxWe  welcome  comments   and  suggestions  of the Medical fraternity, policy makers, professional organization  and  other  stake  holders,  within  21 days, i.e. by 7thFeb, 2011 so as to enable us to complete the policy document

The subject of Forensic Medicine is essentially the application of medical and allied knowledge and expertise related to debates in the courts of Law for the administration of justice. It is taught to the medical students in Phase 2 MBBS by the way of didactic lectures, integrated teaching, practical demonstrations, witnessing of autopsies and examination and  preparing of  reports in various medico legal situations which would hold them in good steed once they start their professional career.

1. The subject is not only teaching to second MBBS students but also post graduate students of the subject the future Medico legal experts as well as PG of other subjects also.
2. To guide medical officers especially those are working in the field.
3. To help in the investigation of crime to the police and lawyer.
4. To assist in understanding the case in the view of medical science to the honorable court from time to time.
5. The honorable Supreme Court had given order to perform custody death investigations by the staff members of the forensic medicine department.



       6. We are preparing the basic doctor for Health for all and about 80 %    
       graduates are working in the field at PHC, CHC, Health centers and also as private practitioners.
                                   7. These doctors are not facing any problem about pathology,           
                                   microbiology, pharmacology or any clinical subjects but they are afraid  
                                   of Medico legal cases. When any doctor in the field having a Medico
                                   legal case he started perspiring, increase heartbeat etc. and try to contact
                                   any person who know something about the case or to department of   
                                   forensic medicine & toxicology.
8. From day one on the duty he/ she has to perform autopsy, prohibition case examination, sexual offences cases, injury reports, age estimation etc. but not the investigation like microbiology or pathology or any other subject.

                                          Proposed Structure and Duration of the Course
                                                         MBBS- IN VISION 2015

4 year course + 1 year internship (which includes 6 months of electives)
The course would be of 4 years duration with one year internship and provision for elective periods of 6 months before or after internship. Curriculum can be divided into core and non-core with the non-core part of the curriculum be made elective or applied.
Group A:
Year1- Anatomy, Physiology and Biochemistry;
Year 2- Pathology, Microbiology and Pharmacology
Group B:
Year 4- Medicine, Surgery, Obstetrics and Gyanecology, Paediatrics, Family Medicine and Community health
Group C:
Year 2- Forensic medicine
Year 3 and 4- ENT and Opthalmology, STD and Dermatology, Orthopaedics, Accident and Emergency Medicine, Radiology, Anaesthesia, Psychiatry
Elective options- clinical and research electives





   Forensic Medicine can be effectively taught during Gynaecology &   
   Obstetrics (rape, assault), surgery (injuries), pharmacology (toxicology). Legal experts can be called for medico-legal issues. Forensic medicine skills can be acquired during internship such as documentation of medico-legal cases of alcoholism, suicide/homicide, rape, assault and injury cases.


The above move by MCI-BOG to sideline forensic medicine will have widespread effects like
- Students after passing MBBS will enter into private practice without any knowledge of medico legal issues which is dangerous not only to society but also for them in present era of litigations.
- If students are not taught Forensic medicine at MBBS level they will be totally unaware about the subject.
-  If Medical colleges do not require forensic medicine teachers where will be job opportunities for existing staff as well as for fresh post graduates. 
-In absence of job opportunities a doubt arises if any one would like to pursue this specialty as career which will result in shortage of forensic medicine specialists in the country.
- Already a large no of post mortem and other medico legal issues are handled by either MBBS graduates or by doctors from other specialties(common scenario in many states) resulting in poor quality of medico legal reports and opinions. This leads to denial of justice to public. If these "VISION 2015" guidelines are implemented it will only add to the problem.
-If there will be less or no forensic persons who will do the post mortem and other medico legal works.

-As per BOG forensic medicine should not be part of MBBS curriculum and health ministry instead it has to be taken care by Home dept. We would like to say that forensic medicine is a specialty in medical field. It is a post graduation degree course which has to be pursued by MBBS graduate doctors only. It is related to human body directly. So it should be a part of ministry of health as well as MBBS syllabus.
- In present era we have to go forward and explore new horizons in all medical specialties. Present action by BOG is a retrospective action.




        - BOG argues that ministry wants to reduce duration of MBBS curriculum by 6 months. I wish to question the logic behind this, do we just want to produce doctors or should we aim to produce quality doctors. Even if BOG is not bothered about quality will a reduction of 6 months make a hell lot of difference?
-Without the knowledge of forensic medicine how can a doctor sitting at PHC or even district hospital level ensure quality medico legal service to the needy patients?
-BOG says that postmortem and medico legal issues are related to ministry of home with no liability on shoulders of MCI and medical profession.

We wish to ask that as doctors and as responsible citizens of India doesn’t MCI has a social responsibility towards common public to ensure justice for all by providing whatever help we can as doctors whether it is treatment or medico legal help.


5 comments:

  1. DR.SATHISH.N.T AND HIS TEAM .... JOB WELL DONE. .. YOU HAVE SHOW THE WAY AND THIS SHOULD INSPIRE ALL OF FORENSIC FRATERNITY .

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  2. Success Is Not Final,Failure Is Not Fatal..Its D Effort Dat Matters..

    I sincerely appreciate the efforts of YAFMT members who took part in this event.

    God bless

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  3. My sincere appreciation to these forensic youths who are making such sincere efforts to save the subject . These young doctors have not only shown their love for forensic medicine but also have shown how united and sincere they are in their efforts . I wish success in all endeavours . This is the real youngistan .
    Dr Chethan K
    Associate Professor
    General Surgery
    KMC Manipal

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  4. Dr.Manju PrakashFebruary 07, 2011

    Good work fellas,
    on priority basis let law department start their own medical colleges to produce/ generate doctors to cater to their needs without being under MCI. still such time let MCI and Department of Health and Family welfare should not implement Vision 2015 as proposed.

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